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Journal for 12 March 2012

Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill
Lord Bach moved amendment 74, in Schedule 1, page 140, line 8, to leave out from “Kingdom” to end of line 39. The House divided:
Contents
179
Not Contents
198

Contents

  1. Adonis, L.
  2. Ahmed, L.
  3. Alton of Liverpool, L.
  4. Anderson of Swansea, L.
  5. Andrews, B.
  6. Armstrong of Hill Top, B.
  7. Bach, L.
  8. Bakewell, B.
  9. Barnett, L.
  10. Bassam of Brighton, L. [Teller]
  11. Beecham, L.
  12. Best, L.
  13. Bilston, L.
  14. Blackstone, B.
  15. Blood, B.
  16. Boothroyd, B.
  17. Borrie, L.
  18. Boyd of Duncansby, L.
  19. Bradley, L.
  20. Brennan, L.
  21. Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
  22. Brookman, L.
  23. Butler-Sloss, B.
  24. Campbell-Savours, L.
  25. Carter of Coles, L.
  26. Chandos, V.
  27. Clancarty, E.
  28. Clark of Windermere, L.
  29. Clinton-Davis, L.
  30. Collins of Highbury, L.
  31. Corston, B.
  32. Coussins, B.
  33. Davies of Oldham, L.
  34. Davies of Stamford, L.
  35. Donaghy, B.
  36. Donoughue, L.
  37. Drake, B.
  38. Dubs, L.
  39. Elystan-Morgan, L.
  40. Evans of Parkside, L.
  41. Falconer of Thoroton, L.
  42. Falkland, V.
  43. Faulkner of Worcester, L.
  44. Filkin, L.
  45. Finlay of Llandaff, B.
  46. Ford, B.
  47. Foulkes of Cumnock, L.
  48. Gale, B.
  49. Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
  50. Golding, B.
  51. Gordon of Strathblane, L.
  52. Gould of Potternewton, B.
  53. Grantchester, L.
  54. Grenfell, L.
  55. Griffiths of Burry Port, L.
  56. Grocott, L.
  57. Hanworth, V.
  58. Harris of Haringey, L.
  59. Harrison, L.
  60. Hart of Chilton, L.
  61. Haskel, L.
  62. Haskins, L.
  63. Haworth, L.
  64. Hayman, B.
  65. Hayter of Kentish Town, B.
  66. Healy of Primrose Hill, B.
  67. Hereford, Bp.
  68. Hollins, B.
  69. Hollis of Heigham, B.
  70. Howarth of Newport, L.
  71. Howe of Idlicote, B.
  72. Howells of St Davids, B.
  73. Hoyle, L.
  74. Hughes of Stretford, B.
  75. Hughes of Woodside, L.
  76. Hunt of Chesterton, L.
  77. Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
  78. Hylton, L.
  79. Janner of Braunstone, L.
  80. Jones, L.
  81. Jones of Whitchurch, B.
  82. Jordan, L.
  83. Judd, L.
  84. Kennedy of Southwark, L.
  85. Kerr of Kinlochard, L.
  86. King of West Bromwich, L.
  87. Kinnock, L.
  88. Kinnock of Holyhead, B.
  89. Kirkhill, L.
  90. Knight of Weymouth, L.
  91. Krebs, L.
  92. Layard, L.
  93. Lea of Crondall, L.
  94. Liddell of Coatdyke, B.
  95. Liddle, L.
  96. Lipsey, L.
  97. Lister of Burtersett, B.
  98. Low of Dalston, L.
  99. McAvoy, L.
  100. McDonagh, B.
  101. Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
  102. McFall of Alcluith, L.
  103. McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
  104. MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
  105. Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
  106. McKenzie of Luton, L.
  107. Mallalieu, B.
  108. Mandelson, L.
  109. Martin of Springburn, L.
  110. Massey of Darwen, B.
  111. Maxton, L.
  112. Meacher, B.
  113. Mitchell, L.
  114. Monks, L.
  115. Montgomery of Alamein, V.
  116. Moonie, L.
  117. Morgan, L.
  118. Morgan of Drefelin, B.
  119. Morgan of Huyton, B.
  120. Morris of Aberavon, L.
  121. Morris of Handsworth, L.
  122. Newcastle, Bp.
  123. Newton of Braintree, L.
  124. O'Loan, B.
  125. O'Neill of Clackmannan, L.
  126. Palmer, L.
  127. Pannick, L.
  128. Parekh, L.
  129. Patel of Blackburn, L.
  130. Patel of Bradford, L.
  131. Pitkeathley, B.
  132. Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
  133. Prosser, B.
  134. Radice, L.
  135. Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
  136. Rea, L.
  137. Rendell of Babergh, B.
  138. Richard, L.
  139. Rooker, L.
  140. Rosser, L.
  141. Rowlands, L.
  142. Royall of Blaisdon, B.
  143. Sawyer, L.
  144. Sewel, L.
  145. Sheldon, L.
  146. Sherlock, B.
  147. Simon, V.
  148. Smith of Basildon, B.
  149. Smith of Finsbury, L.
  150. Smith of Leigh, L.
  151. Soley, L.
  152. Stevenson of Balmacara, L.
  153. Stoddart of Swindon, L.
  154. Stone of Blackheath, L.
  155. Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
  156. Taylor of Bolton, B.
  157. Temple-Morris, L.
  158. Thornton, B.
  159. Tomlinson, L.
  160. Tonge, B.
  161. Touhig, L.
  162. Triesman, L.
  163. Tunnicliffe, L. [Teller]
  164. Turnberg, L.
  165. Turner of Camden, B.
  166. Wall of New Barnet, B.
  167. Walpole, L.
  168. Walton of Detchant, L.
  169. Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
  170. Watson of Invergowrie, L.
  171. West of Spithead, L.
  172. Wheeler, B.
  173. Whitaker, B.
  174. Whitty, L.
  175. Winston, L.
  176. Woolf, L.
  177. Young of Hornsey, B.
  178. Young of Norwood Green, L.
  179. Young of Old Scone, B.

Not Contents

  1. Aberdare, L.
  2. Addington, L.
  3. Ahmad of Wimbledon, L.
  4. Alderdice, L.
  5. Allan of Hallam, L.
  6. Anelay of St Johns, B. [Teller]
  7. Arran, E.
  8. Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon, L.
  9. Astor of Hever, L.
  10. Attlee, E.
  11. Baker of Dorking, L.
  12. Barker, B.
  13. Bates, L.
  14. Benjamin, B.
  15. Berridge, B.
  16. Bew, L.
  17. Black of Brentwood, L.
  18. Blencathra, L.
  19. Boswell of Aynho, L.
  20. Bowness, L.
  21. Bradshaw, L.
  22. Bridgeman, V.
  23. Brinton, B.
  24. Brittan of Spennithorne, L.
  25. Broers, L.
  26. Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.
  27. Brougham and Vaux, L.
  28. Browning, B.
  29. Burnett, L.
  30. Caithness, E.
  31. Cameron of Dillington, L.
  32. Cathcart, E.
  33. Chalker of Wallasey, B.
  34. Chidgey, L.
  35. Clement-Jones, L.
  36. Colwyn, L.
  37. Cotter, L.
  38. Craigavon, V.
  39. Crickhowell, L.
  40. Cumberlege, B.
  41. De Mauley, L.
  42. Dholakia, L.
  43. Dixon-Smith, L.
  44. Dobbs, L.
  45. Doocey, B.
  46. Dundee, E.
  47. Dykes, L.
  48. Eaton, B.
  49. Eccles, V.
  50. Eccles of Moulton, B.
  51. Eden of Winton, L.
  52. Edmiston, L.
  53. Elton, L.
  54. Emerton, B.
  55. Empey, L.
  56. Falkner of Margravine, B.
  57. Faulks, L.
  58. Fearn, L.
  59. Fink, L.
  60. Fookes, B.
  61. Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
  62. Fowler, L.
  63. Framlingham, L.
  64. Freeman, L.
  65. Garden of Frognal, B.
  66. Gardiner of Kimble, L.
  67. Gardner of Parkes, B.
  68. German, L.
  69. Glasgow, E.
  70. Goodhart, L.
  71. Goodlad, L.
  72. Goschen, V.
  73. Greenway, L.
  74. Hamilton of Epsom, L.
  75. Hanham, B.
  76. Harris of Richmond, B.
  77. Henley, L.
  78. Heyhoe Flint, B.
  79. Higgins, L.
  80. Hill of Oareford, L.
  81. Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
  82. Howe, E.
  83. Howe of Aberavon, L.
  84. Hunt of Wirral, L.
  85. Hussain, L.
  86. James of Blackheath, L.
  87. Jenkin of Kennington, B.
  88. Jenkin of Roding, L.
  89. Jolly, B.
  90. Jopling, L.
  91. Kakkar, L.
  92. Kilclooney, L.
  93. Kirkwood of Kirkhope, L.
  94. Kramer, B.
  95. Lang of Monkton, L.
  96. Lawson of Blaby, L.
  97. Lee of Trafford, L.
  98. Lester of Herne Hill, L.
  99. Lexden, L.
  100. Lingfield, L.
  101. Linklater of Butterstone, B.
  102. Liverpool, E.
  103. Luke, L.
  104. Lyell, L.
  105. Macdonald of River Glaven, L.
  106. MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
  107. Mackay of Clashfern, L.
  108. McNally, L.
  109. Maddock, B.
  110. Mancroft, L.
  111. Maples, L.
  112. Marks of Henley-on-Thames, L.
  113. Marland, L.
  114. Marlesford, L.
  115. Mawhinney, L.
  116. Mayhew of Twysden, L.
  117. Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
  118. Miller of Hendon, B.
  119. Montrose, D.
  120. Morris of Bolton, B.
  121. Naseby, L.
  122. Neville-Jones, B.
  123. Newby, L.
  124. Newlove, B.
  125. Noakes, B.
  126. Northbrook, L.
  127. Northover, B.
  128. Norton of Louth, L.
  129. Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
  130. O'Cathain, B.
  131. Palmer of Childs Hill, L.
  132. Parminter, B.
  133. Patel, L.
  134. Patten, L.
  135. Perry of Southwark, B.
  136. Phillips of Sudbury, L.
  137. Plumb, L.
  138. Popat, L.
  139. Randerson, B.
  140. Rawlings, B.
  141. Razzall, L.
  142. Redesdale, L.
  143. Rennard, L.
  144. Ribeiro, L.
  145. Roberts of Conwy, L.
  146. Roberts of Llandudno, L.
  147. Rogan, L.
  148. Ryder of Wensum, L.
  149. Sassoon, L.
  150. Scott of Needham Market, B.
  151. Seccombe, B.
  152. Selkirk of Douglas, L.
  153. Selsdon, L.
  154. Shackleton of Belgravia, B.
  155. Sharkey, L.
  156. Sharp of Guildford, B.
  157. Sharples, B.
  158. Shaw of Northstead, L.
  159. Sheikh, L.
  160. Shipley, L.
  161. Shrewsbury, E.
  162. Shutt of Greetland, L. [Teller]
  163. Skelmersdale, L.
  164. Slim, V.
  165. Spicer, L.
  166. Stedman-Scott, B.
  167. Stephen, L.
  168. Stewartby, L.
  169. Stoneham of Droxford, L.
  170. Storey, L.
  171. Stowell of Beeston, B.
  172. Strasburger, L.
  173. Strathclyde, L.
  174. Taverne, L.
  175. Taylor of Holbeach, L.
  176. Thomas of Gresford, L.
  177. Thomas of Walliswood, B.
  178. Thomas of Winchester, B.
  179. Tope, L.
  180. Trefgarne, L.
  181. Trenchard, V.
  182. Trimble, L.
  183. True, L.
  184. Tugendhat, L.
  185. Tyler, L.
  186. Tyler of Enfield, B.
  187. Ullswater, V.
  188. Verma, B.
  189. Wakeham, L.
  190. Wallace of Saltaire, L.
  191. Wallace of Tankerness, L.
  192. Walmsley, B.
  193. Warsi, B.
  194. Wasserman, L.
  195. Wei, L.
  196. Wilcox, B.
  197. Willis of Knaresborough, L.
  198. Younger of Leckie, V.
Division No. 1
Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Bill
Lord Stevenson of Balmacara moved amendment 74A, in Schedule 1, page 141, line 3, at end to insert:
Contents
151
Not Contents
194

Contents

  1. Adams of Craigielea, B.
  2. Adonis, L.
  3. Alton of Liverpool, L.
  4. Anderson of Swansea, L.
  5. Armstrong of Hill Top, B.
  6. Bach, L.
  7. Bakewell, B.
  8. Barnett, L.
  9. Bassam of Brighton, L. [Teller]
  10. Beecham, L.
  11. Best, L.
  12. Bilston, L.
  13. Blackstone, B.
  14. Blood, B.
  15. Boothroyd, B.
  16. Borrie, L.
  17. Boyd of Duncansby, L.
  18. Bradley, L.
  19. Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
  20. Brookman, L.
  21. Campbell-Savours, L.
  22. Carter of Coles, L.
  23. Chandos, V.
  24. Clancarty, E.
  25. Clark of Windermere, L.
  26. Clinton-Davis, L.
  27. Collins of Highbury, L.
  28. Corston, B.
  29. Coussins, B.
  30. Davies of Oldham, L.
  31. Davies of Stamford, L.
  32. Donaghy, B.
  33. Drake, B.
  34. Dubs, L.
  35. Elystan-Morgan, L.
  36. Evans of Parkside, L.
  37. Falconer of Thoroton, L.
  38. Faulkner of Worcester, L.
  39. Finlay of Llandaff, B.
  40. Ford, B.
  41. Foulkes of Cumnock, L.
  42. Gale, B.
  43. Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
  44. Golding, B.
  45. Gordon of Strathblane, L.
  46. Gould of Potternewton, B.
  47. Grantchester, L.
  48. Grenfell, L.
  49. Griffiths of Burry Port, L.
  50. Grocott, L.
  51. Hanworth, V.
  52. Harris of Haringey, L.
  53. Harrison, L.
  54. Hart of Chilton, L.
  55. Haskel, L.
  56. Haskins, L.
  57. Haworth, L.
  58. Hayter of Kentish Town, B.
  59. Healy of Primrose Hill, B.
  60. Hereford, Bp.
  61. Hollins, B.
  62. Hollis of Heigham, B.
  63. Howarth of Newport, L.
  64. Howe of Idlicote, B.
  65. Howells of St Davids, B.
  66. Hughes of Stretford, B.
  67. Hughes of Woodside, L.
  68. Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
  69. Janner of Braunstone, L.
  70. Jones, L.
  71. Jones of Whitchurch, B.
  72. Jordan, L.
  73. Judd, L.
  74. Kennedy of Southwark, L.
  75. King of West Bromwich, L.
  76. Kinnock, L.
  77. Kinnock of Holyhead, B.
  78. Kirkhill, L.
  79. Knight of Weymouth, L.
  80. Krebs, L.
  81. Layard, L.
  82. Lea of Crondall, L.
  83. Liddell of Coatdyke, B.
  84. Liddle, L.
  85. Lister of Burtersett, B.
  86. Low of Dalston, L.
  87. McAvoy, L.
  88. McDonagh, B.
  89. McFall of Alcluith, L.
  90. McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
  91. MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
  92. Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
  93. McKenzie of Luton, L.
  94. Mallalieu, B.
  95. Martin of Springburn, L.
  96. Masham of Ilton, B.
  97. Massey of Darwen, B.
  98. Maxton, L.
  99. Meacher, B.
  100. Monks, L.
  101. Moonie, L.
  102. Morgan, L.
  103. Morris of Handsworth, L.
  104. O'Loan, B.
  105. O'Neill of Clackmannan, L.
  106. Palmer, L.
  107. Parekh, L.
  108. Pitkeathley, B.
  109. Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
  110. Prosser, B.
  111. Radice, L.
  112. Rea, L.
  113. Richard, L.
  114. Rooker, L.
  115. Rosser, L.
  116. Rowlands, L.
  117. Royall of Blaisdon, B.
  118. Sawyer, L.
  119. Sewel, L.
  120. Sheldon, L.
  121. Sherlock, B.
  122. Simon, V.
  123. Smith of Basildon, B.
  124. Smith of Finsbury, L.
  125. Smith of Leigh, L.
  126. Soley, L.
  127. Stevenson of Balmacara, L.
  128. Stoddart of Swindon, L.
  129. Stone of Blackheath, L.
  130. Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
  131. Taylor of Bolton, B.
  132. Temple-Morris, L.
  133. Thornton, B.
  134. Tomlinson, L.
  135. Touhig, L.
  136. Triesman, L.
  137. Tunnicliffe, L. [Teller]
  138. Turnberg, L.
  139. Turner of Camden, B.
  140. Wall of New Barnet, B.
  141. Walpole, L.
  142. Walton of Detchant, L.
  143. Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
  144. Watson of Invergowrie, L.
  145. West of Spithead, L.
  146. Wheeler, B.
  147. Whitaker, B.
  148. Wills, L.
  149. Winston, L.
  150. Young of Norwood Green, L.
  151. Young of Old Scone, B.

Not Contents

  1. Aberdare, L.
  2. Addington, L.
  3. Ahmad of Wimbledon, L.
  4. Alderdice, L.
  5. Allan of Hallam, L.
  6. Anelay of St Johns, B. [Teller]
  7. Armstrong of Ilminster, L.
  8. Arran, E.
  9. Ashdown of Norton-sub-Hamdon, L.
  10. Astor of Hever, L.
  11. Attlee, E.
  12. Avebury, L.
  13. Barker, B.
  14. Bates, L.
  15. Berridge, B.
  16. Bew, L.
  17. Black of Brentwood, L.
  18. Blencathra, L.
  19. Boswell of Aynho, L.
  20. Bowness, L.
  21. Bridgeman, V.
  22. Brinton, B.
  23. Brittan of Spennithorne, L.
  24. Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.
  25. Brougham and Vaux, L.
  26. Browning, B.
  27. Burnett, L.
  28. Butler-Sloss, B.
  29. Caithness, E.
  30. Cameron of Dillington, L.
  31. Cathcart, E.
  32. Chalker of Wallasey, B.
  33. Chidgey, L.
  34. Clement-Jones, L.
  35. Colwyn, L.
  36. Cotter, L.
  37. Craigavon, V.
  38. Crickhowell, L.
  39. Cumberlege, B.
  40. De Mauley, L.
  41. Dholakia, L.
  42. Dixon-Smith, L.
  43. Dobbs, L.
  44. Doocey, B.
  45. Dundee, E.
  46. Dykes, L.
  47. Eaton, B.
  48. Eden of Winton, L.
  49. Edmiston, L.
  50. Emerton, B.
  51. Empey, L.
  52. Falkner of Margravine, B.
  53. Faulks, L.
  54. Fearn, L.
  55. Fink, L.
  56. Fookes, B.
  57. Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
  58. Fowler, L.
  59. Framlingham, L.
  60. Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
  61. Freeman, L.
  62. Garden of Frognal, B.
  63. Gardiner of Kimble, L.
  64. Gardner of Parkes, B.
  65. German, L.
  66. Goodhart, L.
  67. Goodlad, L.
  68. Greengross, B.
  69. Greenway, L.
  70. Hamilton of Epsom, L.
  71. Hamwee, B.
  72. Hanham, B.
  73. Harris of Richmond, B.
  74. Henley, L.
  75. Heyhoe Flint, B.
  76. Higgins, L.
  77. Hill of Oareford, L.
  78. Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
  79. Howe, E.
  80. Howe of Aberavon, L.
  81. Howell of Guildford, L.
  82. Hunt of Wirral, L.
  83. Hussain, L.
  84. James of Blackheath, L.
  85. Jenkin of Kennington, B.
  86. Jenkin of Roding, L.
  87. Jolly, B.
  88. Jopling, L.
  89. Kirkwood of Kirkhope, L.
  90. Kramer, B.
  91. Lamont of Lerwick, L.
  92. Lang of Monkton, L.
  93. Lawson of Blaby, L.
  94. Lee of Trafford, L.
  95. Lester of Herne Hill, L.
  96. Lexden, L.
  97. Lingfield, L.
  98. Linklater of Butterstone, B.
  99. Liverpool, E.
  100. Luke, L.
  101. Lyell, L.
  102. Macdonald of River Glaven, L.
  103. MacGregor of Pulham Market, L.
  104. Mackay of Clashfern, L.
  105. McNally, L.
  106. Maddock, B.
  107. Mancroft, L.
  108. Maples, L.
  109. Marks of Henley-on-Thames, L.
  110. Marland, L.
  111. Marlesford, L.
  112. Mawhinney, L.
  113. Mayhew of Twysden, L.
  114. Miller of Chilthorne Domer, B.
  115. Miller of Hendon, B.
  116. Montrose, D.
  117. Morris of Bolton, B.
  118. Naseby, L.
  119. Newby, L.
  120. Newlove, B.
  121. Noakes, B.
  122. Northbrook, L.
  123. Northover, B.
  124. Norton of Louth, L.
  125. Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
  126. O'Cathain, B.
  127. Palmer of Childs Hill, L.
  128. Parminter, B.
  129. Patel, L.
  130. Patten, L.
  131. Perry of Southwark, B.
  132. Phillips of Sudbury, L.
  133. Plumb, L.
  134. Popat, L.
  135. Randerson, B.
  136. Rawlings, B.
  137. Razzall, L.
  138. Redesdale, L.
  139. Rennard, L.
  140. Ribeiro, L.
  141. Roberts of Conwy, L.
  142. Roberts of Llandudno, L.
  143. Rogan, L.
  144. Ryder of Wensum, L.
  145. Sassoon, L.
  146. Scott of Needham Market, B.
  147. Seccombe, B.
  148. Selkirk of Douglas, L.
  149. Selsdon, L.
  150. Shackleton of Belgravia, B.
  151. Sharkey, L.
  152. Sharp of Guildford, B.
  153. Shaw of Northstead, L.
  154. Sheikh, L.
  155. Shipley, L.
  156. Shrewsbury, E.
  157. Shutt of Greetland, L. [Teller]
  158. Skelmersdale, L.
  159. Spicer, L.
  160. Stedman-Scott, B.
  161. Steel of Aikwood, L.
  162. Stephen, L.
  163. Stewartby, L.
  164. Stoneham of Droxford, L.
  165. Storey, L.
  166. Stowell of Beeston, B.
  167. Strasburger, L.
  168. Strathclyde, L.
  169. Taverne, L.
  170. Taylor of Holbeach, L.
  171. Thomas of Gresford, L.
  172. Thomas of Walliswood, B.
  173. Thomas of Winchester, B.
  174. Tope, L.
  175. Trefgarne, L.
  176. Trenchard, V.
  177. Trimble, L.
  178. True, L.
  179. Tugendhat, L.
  180. Tyler, L.
  181. Tyler of Enfield, B.
  182. Ullswater, V.
  183. Verma, B.
  184. Wakeham, L.
  185. Wallace of Saltaire, L.
  186. Wallace of Tankerness, L.
  187. Walmsley, B.
  188. Warsi, B.
  189. Wasserman, L.
  190. Wei, L.
  191. Wilcox, B.
  192. Williams of Crosby, B.
  193. Willis of Knaresborough, L.
  194. Younger of Leckie, V.
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