House of Lords Journal

The Journal is the formal and authoritative summary record of the proceedings of the House of Lords. Each Journal contains the attendance, minutes (including voting lists) and papers, along with some committee reports, for every day the House sat during a parliamentary session. Each sessional volume is indexed.

Session 2012-13 Volume 245

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Journal for 3 December 2012

Legal Aid, Sentencing and Punishment of Offenders Act 2012 (Amendment of Schedule 1) Order 2012
Lord Bach moved, as an amendment to the motion that the draft Order be approved, to leave out from “that” to the end and insert “this House declines to approve the draft Order laid before the House on 29 October as it does not fulfil the undertaking given by Her Majesty’s Government on 17 April; and will mean claimants, including a disproportionate number of disabled people, will not receive legal help on a point of law in first-tier tribunals relating to welfare benefits thus denying them a fair hearing on point of law cases”. The House divided:
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Contents

  1. Aberdare, L.
  2. Adams of Craigielea, B.
  3. Ahmed, L.
  4. Anderson of Swansea, L.
  5. Andrews, B.
  6. Armstrong of Hill Top, B.
  7. Bach, L.
  8. Bakewell, B.
  9. Barnett, L.
  10. Bassam of Brighton, L. [Teller]
  11. Beecham, L.
  12. Berkeley, L.
  13. Best, L.
  14. Bichard, L.
  15. Bilimoria, L.
  16. Billingham, B.
  17. Bilston, L.
  18. Blair of Boughton, L.
  19. Borrie, L.
  20. Bradley, L.
  21. Brooke of Alverthorpe, L.
  22. Brookman, L.
  23. Browne of Belmont, L.
  24. Browne of Ladyton, L.
  25. Campbell-Savours, L.
  26. Carter of Coles, L.
  27. Chandos, V.
  28. Christopher, L.
  29. Clancarty, E.
  30. Clark of Windermere, L.
  31. Clinton-Davis, L.
  32. Collins of Highbury, L.
  33. Corston, B.
  34. Coussins, B.
  35. Crawley, B.
  36. Davidson of Glen Clova, L.
  37. Davies of Coity, L.
  38. Davies of Oldham, L.
  39. Dean of Thornton-le-Fylde, B.
  40. Deech, B.
  41. Desai, L.
  42. Donaghy, B.
  43. Donoughue, L.
  44. Doocey, B.
  45. Dubs, L.
  46. Elder, L.
  47. Elystan-Morgan, L.
  48. Evans of Temple Guiting, L.
  49. Evans of Watford, L.
  50. Farrington of Ribbleton, B.
  51. Faulkner of Worcester, L.
  52. Filkin, L.
  53. Ford, B.
  54. Foster of Bishop Auckland, L.
  55. Foulkes of Cumnock, L.
  56. Gale, B.
  57. Gibson of Market Rasen, B.
  58. Golding, B.
  59. Goldsmith, L.
  60. Gordon of Strathblane, L.
  61. Gould of Potternewton, B.
  62. Grey-Thompson, B.
  63. Grocott, L.
  64. Guildford, Bp.
  65. Harries of Pentregarth, L.
  66. Harris of Haringey, L.
  67. Harrison, L.
  68. Hart of Chilton, L.
  69. Haskel, L.
  70. Haworth, L.
  71. Hayter of Kentish Town, B.
  72. Healy of Primrose Hill, B.
  73. Henig, B.
  74. Hilton of Eggardon, B.
  75. Hollick, L.
  76. Hollis of Heigham, B.
  77. Howarth of Newport, L.
  78. Howells of St Davids, B.
  79. Howie of Troon, L.
  80. Hoyle, L.
  81. Hughes of Stretford, B.
  82. Hughes of Woodside, L.
  83. Hunt of Kings Heath, L.
  84. Irvine of Lairg, L.
  85. Janner of Braunstone, L.
  86. Jay of Paddington, B.
  87. Jones, L.
  88. Jones of Whitchurch, B.
  89. Jordan, L.
  90. Judd, L.
  91. Kennedy of Southwark, L.
  92. Kennedy of The Shaws, B.
  93. Kerr of Kinlochard, L.
  94. King of Bow, B.
  95. King of West Bromwich, L.
  96. Kinnock, L.
  97. Kinnock of Holyhead, B.
  98. Kirkhill, L.
  99. Knight of Weymouth, L.
  100. Layard, L.
  101. Lea of Crondall, L.
  102. Liddle, L.
  103. Lipsey, L.
  104. Lister of Burtersett, B.
  105. McAvoy, L.
  106. McDonagh, B.
  107. Macdonald of Tradeston, L.
  108. McIntosh of Hudnall, B.
  109. MacKenzie of Culkein, L.
  110. Mackenzie of Framwellgate, L.
  111. McKenzie of Luton, L.
  112. Mallalieu, B.
  113. Mandelson, L.
  114. Mar, C.
  115. Martin of Springburn, L.
  116. Masham of Ilton, B.
  117. Massey of Darwen, B.
  118. Maxton, L.
  119. Meacher, B.
  120. Mitchell, L.
  121. Moonie, L.
  122. Morgan, L.
  123. Morris of Aberavon, L.
  124. Morris of Handsworth, L.
  125. Morris of Yardley, B.
  126. Noon, L.
  127. Nye, B.
  128. O'Neill of Bengarve, B.
  129. O'Neill of Clackmannan, L.
  130. Ouseley, L.
  131. Palmer, L.
  132. Pannick, L.
  133. Patel of Blackburn, L.
  134. Patel of Bradford, L.
  135. Pendry, L.
  136. Peston, L.
  137. Pitkeathley, B.
  138. Plant of Highfield, L.
  139. Ponsonby of Shulbrede, L.
  140. Prashar, B.
  141. Prescott, L.
  142. Prosser, B.
  143. Quin, B.
  144. Radice, L.
  145. Ramsay of Cartvale, B.
  146. Ramsbotham, L.
  147. Rea, L.
  148. Reid of Cardowan, L.
  149. Rendell of Babergh, B.
  150. Robertson of Port Ellen, L.
  151. Rooker, L.
  152. Rosser, L.
  153. Rowlands, L.
  154. Royall of Blaisdon, B.
  155. St John of Bletso, L.
  156. Sandwich, E.
  157. Sawyer, L.
  158. Scotland of Asthal, B.
  159. Sheldon, L.
  160. Sherlock, B.
  161. Simon, V.
  162. Smith of Basildon, B.
  163. Smith of Finsbury, L.
  164. Smith of Gilmorehill, B.
  165. Snape, L.
  166. Soley, L.
  167. Stern, B.
  168. Stevenson of Balmacara, L.
  169. Stoddart of Swindon, L.
  170. Symons of Vernham Dean, B.
  171. Taylor of Blackburn, L.
  172. Taylor of Bolton, B.
  173. Temple-Morris, L.
  174. Thornton, B.
  175. Tomlinson, L.
  176. Tonge, B.
  177. Triesman, L.
  178. Tunnicliffe, L. [Teller]
  179. Turnberg, L.
  180. Turner of Camden, B.
  181. Uddin, B.
  182. Wall of New Barnet, B.
  183. Warner, L.
  184. Warnock, B.
  185. Warwick of Undercliffe, B.
  186. Watson of Invergowrie, L.
  187. West of Spithead, L.
  188. Wheeler, B.
  189. Whitaker, B.
  190. Whitty, L.
  191. Wigley, L.
  192. Williams of Baglan, L.
  193. Wills, L.
  194. Wilson of Tillyorn, L.
  195. Winston, L.
  196. Wood of Anfield, L.
  197. Woolf, L.
  198. Woolmer of Leeds, L.
  199. Worthington, B.
  200. Young of Hornsey, B.
  201. Young of Norwood Green, L.

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  1. Addington, L.
  2. Ahmad of Wimbledon, L.
  3. Alderdice, L.
  4. Allan of Hallam, L.
  5. Anelay of St Johns, B. [Teller]
  6. Arran, E.
  7. Ashton of Hyde, L.
  8. Astor of Hever, L.
  9. Attlee, E.
  10. Baker of Dorking, L.
  11. Bates, L.
  12. Berridge, B.
  13. Black of Brentwood, L.
  14. Blackwell, L.
  15. Blencathra, L.
  16. Bonham-Carter of Yarnbury, B.
  17. Bowness, L.
  18. Brabazon of Tara, L.
  19. Bridgeman, V.
  20. Brinton, B.
  21. Brittan of Spennithorne, L.
  22. Brooke of Sutton Mandeville, L.
  23. Brookeborough, V.
  24. Brougham and Vaux, L.
  25. Browning, B.
  26. Burnett, L.
  27. Buscombe, B.
  28. Byford, B.
  29. Caithness, E.
  30. Cathcart, E.
  31. Cavendish of Furness, L.
  32. Chalker of Wallasey, B.
  33. Colwyn, L.
  34. Condon, L.
  35. Cope of Berkeley, L.
  36. Courtown, E.
  37. Craig of Radley, L.
  38. Craigavon, V.
  39. Crickhowell, L.
  40. Cumberlege, B.
  41. De Mauley, L.
  42. Dear, L.
  43. Dholakia, L.
  44. Dixon-Smith, L.
  45. Dobbs, L.
  46. Eccles, V.
  47. Eccles of Moulton, B.
  48. Eden of Winton, L.
  49. Edmiston, L.
  50. Elton, L.
  51. Empey, L.
  52. Erroll, E.
  53. Faulks, L.
  54. Fearn, L.
  55. Feldman of Elstree, L.
  56. Fink, L.
  57. Fookes, B.
  58. Forsyth of Drumlean, L.
  59. Fowler, L.
  60. Framlingham, L.
  61. Fraser of Carmyllie, L.
  62. Freeman, L.
  63. Freud, L.
  64. Garden of Frognal, B.
  65. Gardiner of Kimble, L.
  66. Gardner of Parkes, B.
  67. Geddes, L.
  68. German, L.
  69. Glasgow, E.
  70. Gold, L.
  71. Goodlad, L.
  72. Goschen, V.
  73. Grade of Yarmouth, L.
  74. Green of Hurstpierpoint, L.
  75. Hamilton of Epsom, L.
  76. Hanham, B.
  77. Harris of Peckham, L.
  78. Henley, L.
  79. Heyhoe Flint, B.
  80. Hill of Oareford, L.
  81. Hodgson of Astley Abbotts, L.
  82. Howard of Lympne, L.
  83. Howard of Rising, L.
  84. Howe, E.
  85. Howell of Guildford, L.
  86. Hunt of Wirral, L.
  87. Hurd of Westwell, L.
  88. Hussain, L.
  89. Hussein-Ece, B.
  90. Inglewood, L.
  91. James of Blackheath, L.
  92. Jenkin of Kennington, B.
  93. Jenkin of Roding, L.
  94. Jolly, B.
  95. Jopling, L.
  96. King of Bridgwater, L.
  97. Kirkham, L.
  98. Knight of Collingtree, B.
  99. Laming, L.
  100. Lee of Trafford, L.
  101. Lexden, L.
  102. Lingfield, L.
  103. Liverpool, E.
  104. Loomba, L.
  105. Luce, L.
  106. Luke, L.
  107. Lyell, L.
  108. McColl of Dulwich, L.
  109. Mackay of Clashfern, L.
  110. MacLaurin of Knebworth, L.
  111. McNally, L.
  112. Maddock, B.
  113. Maginnis of Drumglass, L.
  114. Marks of Henley-on-Thames, L.
  115. Marland, L.
  116. Marlesford, L.
  117. Mawhinney, L.
  118. Mawson, L.
  119. Mayhew of Twysden, L.
  120. Montrose, D.
  121. Moore of Lower Marsh, L.
  122. Morris of Bolton, B.
  123. Moynihan, L.
  124. Naseby, L.
  125. Neville-Jones, B.
  126. Newby, L. [Teller]
  127. Newlove, B.
  128. Noakes, B.
  129. Northover, B.
  130. Norton of Louth, L.
  131. Oakeshott of Seagrove Bay, L.
  132. Palmer of Childs Hill, L.
  133. Palumbo, L.
  134. Parminter, B.
  135. Plumb, L.
  136. Popat, L.
  137. Randerson, B.
  138. Rawlings, B.
  139. Razzall, L.
  140. Redesdale, L.
  141. Renfrew of Kaimsthorn, L.
  142. Ribeiro, L.
  143. Roberts of Conwy, L.
  144. Roberts of Llandudno, L.
  145. Rodgers of Quarry Bank, L.
  146. Rogan, L.
  147. Ryder of Wensum, L.
  148. Sassoon, L.
  149. Scott of Needham Market, B.
  150. Seccombe, B.
  151. Selborne, E.
  152. Selkirk of Douglas, L.
  153. Selsdon, L.
  154. Shackleton of Belgravia, B.
  155. Sharkey, L.
  156. Sharples, B.
  157. Shaw of Northstead, L.
  158. Sheikh, L.
  159. Shephard of Northwold, B.
  160. Shrewsbury, E.
  161. Shutt of Greetland, L.
  162. Smith of Clifton, L.
  163. Spicer, L.
  164. Stedman-Scott, B.
  165. Stephen, L.
  166. Stewartby, L.
  167. Stoneham of Droxford, L.
  168. Stowell of Beeston, B.
  169. Strathclyde, L.
  170. Taylor of Goss Moor, L.
  171. Taylor of Holbeach, L.
  172. Teverson, L.
  173. Tope, L.
  174. Tordoff, L.
  175. Trimble, L.
  176. True, L.
  177. Tugendhat, L.
  178. Tyler, L.
  179. Tyler of Enfield, B.
  180. Ullswater, V.
  181. Verma, B.
  182. Wakeham, L.
  183. Wallace of Saltaire, L.
  184. Wallace of Tankerness, L.
  185. Walmsley, B.
  186. Warsi, B.
  187. Wasserman, L.
  188. Wei, L.
  189. Wheatcroft, B.
  190. Wilcox, B.
  191. Younger of Leckie, V.
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